[MailPlus] Digest Number 16877

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1a.

Re: Nanya masalah virus From: muammal hamidy

1b.

Re: Nanya masalah virus From: Taufiq Luthfi

2.1.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Mochammad Kurniawan

2.2.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Mochammad Kurniawan

2.3.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Mochammad Kurniawan

2.4.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: bAkT

2.5.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Chandra R.

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Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: mbUdh eXtended!

3a.

Re: Bls: [MailPlus] harga wirelles usb adapter From: Taufiq Luthfi

3b.

Re[2]: Bls: [MailPlus] harga wirelles usb adapter From: Nero Sumargono

3c.

Re: Bls: [MailPlus] harga wirelles usb adapter From: Taufiq Luthfi

4.1.

Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Nero Sumargono

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Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: imcw

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Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: imcw

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Re: Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: ipinz

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Re[3]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Diovan

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Re[4]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Ardian Eko

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Re[5]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Ardian Eko

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Re[6]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Nero Sumargono

6.3.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: bAkT

6.4.

Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama From: Nero Sumargono

7a.

Re: PC game From: Rastra Avo Kanigara

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Re: PC game From: Rully

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Re: PC game From: Rully

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Re[2]: [MailPlus] PC game From: Maseko

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1a.

Re: Nanya masalah virus

Posted by: "muammal hamidy" muammalhamidy@gmail.com   muamalhamidy

Tue Jun 9, 2009 8:56 pm (PDT)

buka hdd nya mas trus scan ditempat lain aja dulu (dengan cata2n AVnya
sudah terUpdate sich)
klo pirusnya msh ngebandel pakek program pihak ketiga buat ngebuka
msconfig banyak kok bertebaran klo aku pakek Curproses,
klo masih gak bisa instal ulang aja (fresh instal) semuanya (backup
dolo datanya)

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Re: Nanya masalah virus

Posted by: "Taufiq Luthfi" top1xx@yahoo.com.sg   top1xx

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:26 pm (PDT)

Salam muammal, pada Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:01:17 +0700, anda menulis;

...
TL>klo masih gak bisa instal ulang aja (fresh instal) semuanya (backup
TL>dolo datanya)
TL>

backup data kan biasanya virus (atau trigger-nya) ikut ter-backup juga
yak...?? CMIIW

ada cara membackup data yang lebih save?... tanpa menyertakan virus
atau trigger virus-nya?

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Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Mochammad Kurniawan" mochammad@kurniawan.tv   kompie_mania

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:09 pm (PDT)

Hello bAkT,

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:28:39 AM, you wrote:

> *padahal hibernate itu nyimpennya di ram bukan hdd

mosok di RAM, listrik wis mati gitu kok.. kalo listrik mati bukannya
data di RAM ilang kabeh??

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Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Mochammad Kurniawan" mochammad@kurniawan.tv   kompie_mania

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:10 pm (PDT)

Hello oyi,

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 10:52:41 AM, you wrote:

> ah yang bo'oong.. masa satu istilah beda penerapannya? ntar bingung
> dunk, mau hibernate di mekbuk lha kok malah nyetenbai.. sing bodo sapa,
> si jobs atau gates? kakakaka..

di macbook adanya cuma sleep dan deep sleep thok...

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Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Mochammad Kurniawan" mochammad@kurniawan.tv   kompie_mania

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:22 pm (PDT)

Hello bAkT,

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:28:39 AM, you wrote:

> *padahal hibernate itu nyimpennya di ram bukan hdd

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hibernate_(OS_feature)
Hibernate is a feature seen in many operating systems where the contents
of RAM is written to non-volatile storage, such as the hard disk (as either
a file or on a separate partition) before powering off the system. Later the
system can be restored to the state it was in when hibernation was invoked,
so that programs can continue execution from their previous state. Hibernating
and restoring from hibernate is also generally faster than a hard reboot and,
if necessary, can be done without user interaction (unlike shutting down,
which often requires the user to specify if open documents should be saved).

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Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "bAkT" bakt_noorseta@yahoo.com.sg   bakt_noorseta

Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:06 pm (PDT)

gak mati tek sek gitu. hardware lain matek, cuma ram sama batere saja.
kalo maktek tuh namanya hard reboot.
hibernate itu lebih lambat di banding sleep kalo hidup
kalo di osx namanya deep sleep . .

On 6/10/09 11:06 AM, Mochammad Kurniawan wrote:
> Hello bAkT,
>
> Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:28:39 AM, you wrote:
>
>
>> *padahal hibernate itu nyimpennya di ram bukan hdd
>>
>
> mosok di RAM, listrik wis mati gitu kok.. kalo listrik mati bukannya
> data di RAM ilang kabeh??
>
>

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2.5.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Chandra R." chan8lus2006@yahoo.com.sg   chan8lus2006

Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:21 pm (PDT)

At 10/06/2009 09:24 +0700, bAkT wrote:
>di kompas beberapa hari lalu ada advertorial acer yg ngomong gitu juga.
>charge akan stop kalo memang tidak perlu.

coba aja, klo dah penuh dicharge terus, batere / chargernya tetap adem,
berarti berfungsi tuh, klo netbook lenovo saya, asal baterenya min 85%
dia gak akan ngecharge, di manualnya ada keterangannya.

Regards:

Chandra
ideapad @ tsel-flash

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Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "mbUdh eXtended!" mbudhx@yahoo.co.id   mbudhx

Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:12 am (PDT)

Kalo laptop yang bagus, biasanya akan fast charg sampai 80%. Setelah itu
akan slow charge sampai 100%.
Kalo beneran tuh Lenovo saat 85% gak charging lagi, berarti gak bakalan
baterai bisa 86% dunkz, apalagi sampai full 100%.

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From: "Chandra R." <chan8lus2006@yahoo.com.sg>
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:18 PM
To: <mailplus@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

> At 10/06/2009 09:24 +0700, bAkT wrote:
>>di kompas beberapa hari lalu ada advertorial acer yg ngomong gitu juga.
>>charge akan stop kalo memang tidak perlu.
>
> coba aja, klo dah penuh dicharge terus, batere / chargernya tetap adem,
> berarti berfungsi tuh, klo netbook lenovo saya, asal baterenya min 85%
> dia gak akan ngecharge, di manualnya ada keterangannya.

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3a.

Re: Bls: [MailPlus] harga wirelles usb adapter

Posted by: "Taufiq Luthfi" top1xx@yahoo.com.sg   top1xx

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:26 pm (PDT)

Salam vespamania, pada Tue, 9 Jun 2009 04:17:40 -0700, anda menulis;

TL>cobain yang wn 322, lebih mantaf...bisa akses poin mode
TL>

numpang nanya...

kalo yang mur-mer gitu bisa capture packet data gak ya pak?...

atau semua wireless card bisa capture data? karena denger2 sih, nggak
semua wireless card bisa CMIIW...

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Re[2]: Bls: [MailPlus] harga wirelles usb adapter

Posted by: "Nero Sumargono" itpribadi@yahoo.com.sg   itpribadi

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:30 pm (PDT)

Hello Taufiq,says

klo capture data bisa semua...yg rada susah tuh packet
injection.capture data biasanya jg tergantung sopwer yg dipake,cth
whireshark ga ngedukung semua lini chipset...

kek na cuman bbrp chipset aja yg isa....

inti ne ya di chipset aja,semakin bagus chipsetnya,semakin mudah
aplikasi 3rd party nya maka barangnya akan semakin mahal...

ya ga?

Wednesday, June 10, 2009,10:24:03 PM, you said!:
> kalo yang mur-mer gitu bisa capture packet data gak ya pak?...

> atau semua wireless card bisa capture data? karena denger2 sih, nggak
> semua wireless card bisa CMIIW...

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Re: Bls: [MailPlus] harga wirelles usb adapter

Posted by: "Taufiq Luthfi" top1xx@yahoo.com.sg   top1xx

Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:06 pm (PDT)

Salam Nero Sumargono, pada Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:23:29 +0700, anda
menulis;

TL>Hello Taufiq,says
TL>
TL>klo capture data bisa semua...yg rada susah tuh packet
TL>injection.capture data biasanya jg tergantung sopwer yg dipake,cth
TL>whireshark ga ngedukung semua lini chipset...
TL>
TL>kek na cuman bbrp chipset aja yg isa....
TL>
TL>inti ne ya di chipset aja,semakin bagus chipsetnya,semakin mudah
TL>aplikasi 3rd party nya maka barangnya akan semakin mahal...
TL>
TL>ya ga?

oh gitu ya...

kesimpulan semua chipset wireless bisa capture data, cuman
aplikasi-nya yang kadang2 gak support sama chipset tertentu?

Ok... agak mudeng sekarang. thx info-nya

[mau*cari*wireless*card*juga*...yg*bisa*buat*ngintip]

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4.1.

Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Nero Sumargono" itpribadi@yahoo.com.sg   itpribadi

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:27 pm (PDT)

Hello oyi,says

oalah...

ane cuman nimpalin omongane sibass.....

eh kok sampeyan sing nyureng,ga dpt jatah dr mabk ut yah?

wakakakakakaak

Wednesday, June 10, 2009,10:52:41 AM, you said!:
> :)
> ah yang bo'oong.. masa satu istilah beda penerapannya? ntar bingung
> dunk, mau hibernate di mekbuk lha kok malah nyetenbai.. sing bodo sapa,
> si jobs atau gates? kakakaka..

> --
> wassalam,
> oyi kresnamurti

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4.2.

Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "imcw" imcw06@gmail.com   merakih

Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:18 am (PDT)

Salam Chandra R.,

Tapi selama laptop dipake sambil di charge khan nggak mungkin baterai
habis? Jadi tetap saja ada proses keluar masuk daya dalam baterai.
Skemanya kurang lebih kayak gini : listrik --> baterai --> laptop.
Dan proses charge dan discharge yang berlangsung secara terus menerus
inilah yang akan menurunkan umur baterai. Ingat salah satu yang
memperpendek umur baterai adalah jumlah siklus charge dan discharge.
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Tulisan anda pada hari Rabu 10 Juni 2009, jam 20:09:32 :

CR> coba aja, klo dah penuh dicharge terus, batere / chargernya tetap adem,
CR> berarti berfungsi tuh, klo netbook lenovo saya, asal baterenya min 85%
CR> dia gak akan ngecharge, di manualnya ada keterangannya.

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Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "imcw" imcw06@gmail.com   merakih

Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:18 am (PDT)

Salam Mochammad Kurniawan,

Untuk XP memang perlu ini, sedangkan untuk Vista sudah nggak perlu
lagi.
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Tulisan anda pada hari Selasa 09 Juni 2009, jam 20:16:17 :

MK> Ada Acer empoweringnya gak?? Download dan install dulu gih...

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4.4.

Re: Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "ipinz" brokolies@gmail.com   ipinz_zero

Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:46 am (PDT)

listrik --> baterai --> laptop?
kalo batere dicabut laptop kok bisa jalan liwat steker...Perusahaan Listrik
Negara.

IpinZ

----- Original Message -----
From: "imcw" <imcw06@gmail.com>

Salam Chandra R.,

Tapi selama laptop dipake sambil di charge khan nggak mungkin baterai
habis? Jadi tetap saja ada proses keluar masuk daya dalam baterai.
Skemanya kurang lebih kayak gini : listrik --> baterai --> laptop.
Dan proses charge dan discharge yang berlangsung secara terus menerus
inilah yang akan menurunkan umur baterai. Ingat salah satu yang
memperpendek umur baterai adalah jumlah siklus charge dan discharge.
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5.1.

Re[3]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Diovan" cumiasin@gmail.com   wizwuzw

Tue Jun 9, 2009 9:43 pm (PDT)

Hello mailplus@yahoogroups.com

kalo boleh tahu type notbuknya apa Om ?

Regards
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Kala Rebo Pahing 10-06-2009 jam 10:54:19 wib nyerat:

> Re[3]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama
> Posted by: "Ardian Eko" ardian.slowmotion@gmail.com
> Date: Tue Jun 9, 2009 7:26 pm ((PDT))

> Kemarin saya lupa kalo baterei dipasang. Ngecharge 8jam, baterei jadi kuat cuma 1.5jam..
> sebelumnya sekitar 2jam. Dengan pemakaian yang sama.
> *pengalaman pribadi, udah beli baterei lagi*

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Re[4]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Ardian Eko" ardian.slowmotion@gmail.com

Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:17 pm (PDT)

Hello Diovan,

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 11:42:28 AM, you wrote:

> kalo boleh tahu type notbuknya apa Om ?

Acer aspire 5552.. udah jadul..

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Re[5]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Ardian Eko" ardian.slowmotion@gmail.com

Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:17 pm (PDT)

Hello Nero,

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 10:19:54 AM, you wrote:

> sekali lg ,itu faktor sirkuit disitunya,ini jg baru tau ternyata
> refil2 itu ada yg emang bener2 diganti tp ada juga yg cuman ganti
> komponen sirkuit or seblok gitu...

> baru ngeh juga itu yg namanya shunt dioda yg cuman (ternyata)
> ngandelin dioda zener doang di bikin wheatstone !

> ilmu murmer tp duide guede...

Ouw, ternyata bisa diganti toh sirkuit dalamnya? sirkuit baterei atau
laptop pak?

Kemarin saya beli baterei yang baru. Mahal amir.

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Re[6]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Nero Sumargono" itpribadi@yahoo.com.sg   itpribadi

Wed Jun 10, 2009 1:26 am (PDT)

Hello Ardian,says

sirkuit batre,itu tukang refill jg untung2an loh,klo pas cek sirkuit
batre ternyata cumin sensor zener yg mulur (dah ga beres lg) ya mrk
untung tuh....

tp klo pas buntung ya ganti cell batre,ga banyak2 lah dapatnya.

kesimpulan sih,sensor pada batre jg suka ngacoin system deteksi batre
dan input tegangan saat charging ....

Wednesday, June 10, 2009,11:55:02 AM, you said!:
> Ouw, ternyata bisa diganti toh sirkuit dalamnya? sirkuit baterei atau
> laptop pak?

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6.3.

Re: Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "bAkT" bakt_noorseta@yahoo.com.sg   bakt_noorseta

Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:04 am (PDT)

kek chip di cartridge printer yah. kasih tanda kalo tinta dah abis. mau
diisi ulang juga tetep direject. butuh reset. cuma ya ada gak tukang
refill yg bisa jamin pasti bisa seperti semula?

On 6/10/09 2:25 PM, Nero Sumargono wrote:
> Hello Ardian,says
>
> sirkuit batre,itu tukang refill jg untung2an loh,klo pas cek sirkuit
> batre ternyata cumin sensor zener yg mulur (dah ga beres lg) ya mrk
> untung tuh....
>
> tp klo pas buntung ya ganti cell batre,ga banyak2 lah dapatnya.
>
> kesimpulan sih,sensor pada batre jg suka ngacoin system deteksi batre
> dan input tegangan saat charging ....
>
>
>
> Wednesday, June 10, 2009,11:55:02 AM, you said!:
>
>> Ouw, ternyata bisa diganti toh sirkuit dalamnya? sirkuit baterei atau
>> laptop pak?
>>
>
>
>

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Re[2]: [MailPlus] Tips baterei laptop tahan lama

Posted by: "Nero Sumargono" itpribadi@yahoo.com.sg   itpribadi

Wed Jun 10, 2009 2:15 am (PDT)

Hello bAkT,says

tullll ....

cuman krn medianya kecil ya di tinta pack sirkuit2 tsb dijadiin SMD
(surface mount device)

Wednesday, June 10, 2009,3:55:34 PM, you said!:
> kek chip di cartridge printer yah. kasih tanda kalo tinta dah abis. mau
> diisi ulang juga tetep direject. butuh reset. cuma ya ada gak tukang
> refill yg bisa jamin pasti bisa seperti semula?

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7a.

Re: PC game

Posted by: "Rastra Avo Kanigara" rastraavo.rastra@gmail.com   ra5tra

Tue Jun 9, 2009 10:17 pm (PDT)

buat game, agaknya DAAMIT tu platform paling sip menurut gue dah. Kalo
mau dicoba, silakan aja. Tradisi berbicara, AMD paling getol kalo
bicara soal game daripada intel. Dipasangin ATI lebih sip, soalnya ATI
tu divisi grafis-nya AMD dari taon 2007 (kalo ngga salah). nVidia ngga
salah juga dipake, tapi lebih mantaf ATdah...

Pada 8 Juni 2009 11:20, Rully<rully95@yahoo.com.sg> menulis:
>
>
> Kali i7 temennya 6 gb ato 12 gb ram biar maknyooos..SOL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: panjoel
> To: mailplus@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, June 07, 2009 22:46
> Subject: Re: [MailPlus] PC game
>
> Dananya berapa mas? Karena spek juga harus disesuaikan dengan dana.
> Kalau tidak ada batas dana, saya rasa Intel i7, ram 8 Giga, VGA
> HD4890 Cross Fire MASIH sanggup.
>
> .
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>

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7b.

Re: PC game

Posted by: "Rully" rully95@yahoo.com.sg   rully95

Tue Jun 9, 2009 11:18 pm (PDT)

Jangan salah Boss... kebanyakan game2 3d masang logo optimize for nvidia.
Naahhh gmana doong itu??
Kesimpulannya, jangan terlalu kemakan sama bahasa2 iklan lah. Mending liat langsung perbandingan apple to apple aja.
Artinya perbandingan yg seimbang, sekelas, mana yg lebih unggul.
Kan ada sering muncul di web ato di majalah tuh.

Dari,
Rully

----- Original Message -----
From: Rastra Avo Kanigara
To: mailplus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:53
Subject: Re: [MailPlus] PC game

buat game, agaknya DAAMIT tu platform paling sip menurut gue dah. Kalo
mau dicoba, silakan aja. Tradisi berbicara, AMD paling getol kalo
bicara soal game daripada intel. Dipasangin ATI lebih sip, soalnya ATI
tu divisi grafis-nya AMD dari taon 2007 (kalo ngga salah). nVidia ngga
salah juga dipake, tapi lebih mantaf ATdah...

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Re: PC game

Posted by: "Rully" rully95@yahoo.com.sg   rully95

Tue Jun 9, 2009 11:31 pm (PDT)

Ngomongin prosesor buat game: Masak sih gitu?
Kok menurut benchmark hasil nya beda ya?
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/Crysis-1680x1050,818.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-q3-2008/3DMark-Vantage-Score,815.html
Papan atas semua dikuasai sama intel.

Rupanya tradisi sudah banyak berubah.

Dari,
Rully

----- Original Message -----
From: Rastra Avo Kanigara
To: mailplus@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 12:53
Subject: Re: [MailPlus] PC game

buat game, agaknya DAAMIT tu platform paling sip menurut gue dah. Kalo
mau dicoba, silakan aja. Tradisi berbicara, AMD paling getol kalo
bicara soal game daripada intel. Dipasangin ATI lebih sip, soalnya ATI
tu divisi grafis-nya AMD dari taon 2007 (kalo ngga salah). nVidia ngga
salah juga dipake, tapi lebih mantaf ATdah...

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Re[2]: [MailPlus] PC game

Posted by: "Maseko" maseko_baik@yahoo.com.sg   maseko_baik

Tue Jun 9, 2009 11:40 pm (PDT)

Hello Rully,

Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 1:17:59 PM, you wrote:

> kebanyakan game2 3d masang logo optimize for nvidia.
> Naahhh gmana doong itu??
> Kesimpulannya, jangan terlalu kemakan sama bahasa2 iklan lah.
Ya, setuju! coba langsung aja, kalo gw sih selama masih nyaman di
mata, resolusi kalo bisa max atau 1 level di bawah max, detail sih
medium jg gpp :)

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Maseko mailto:maseko_baik@yahoo.com.sg
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